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Kyle and her husband moved to Brookfield in 1986. She became active in local politics and started blogging in 2004. Her focus is primarily on local issues but often includes state and national topics, too. Kyle looks at things from the taxpayers’ perspective in a creative, yet down to earth way, addressing them from a practical point of view.

What in the world is the Bush Doctrine?

By Kyle Prast
Saturday, Sep 13 2008, 07:24 PM

I know what the Monroe Doctrine is. I could even tell you that Kennedy pledged to help any country struggling to be free--a take off on the Truman Doctrine: to "support free peoples who are resisting attempted subjugation by armed minorities or by outside pressures."

But I confess I was not familiar with the term Bush Doctrine. At least not in the way Charlie Gibson presented it in his 1st interview with Governor Sarah Palin on Thursday, Sept. 11, 2008.

Seems I am not alone in wondering, what in the world is that? Even Barbara Walters on The View said something akin to she did not know that all politicians would know what that term meant. No wonder.

According to Wikipedia on the Bush Doctrine, there are many aspects to it. "Foreign policy experts argue over the meaning of the term "Bush Doctrine," and some scholars have suggested that there is no one unified theory underlying Bush's foreign policy."

Charles Krauthammer exposed Charles Gibson's Gaffe in this Washington Post piece.

"He [Gibson] asked Governor Palin, 'Do you agree with the Bush doctrine?'

She responded, quite sensibly to a question that is ambiguous, 'In what respect, Charlie?'

There are many aspects to the Bush Doctrine. It isn't just one concept as Charlie tried to infer, and he seemed unwilling to define it. (I think Sarah was wise in asking him to define his term. It is always good to know what you are agreeing with.)

Sensing his "gotcha" moment, Gibson refused to tell her. After making her fish for the answer, Gibson grudgingly explained to the moose-hunting rube that the Bush doctrine "is that we have the right of anticipatory self-defense," ["that we have the right to a preemptive strike against any other country that we think is going to attack us. Do you agree with that?"]

So when Charles Gibson defined it, he did so incorrectly. Sarah then restated that portion of the Bush Doctrine, so there would be little doubt as to her convictions. (The Bush Doctrine being the collection of foreign policy themes over the years.)

Palin: "Charlie, if there is legitimate and enough intelligence that tells us that a strike is imminent against American people, we have every right to defend our country. In fact, the president has the obligation, the duty to defend."

Sarah made sure her position was well defined, that preemptive strikes were not to be based on a feeling or hunch as Gibson suggested but on legitimate intelligence. 

I found Charlie Gibson's attitude annoying throughout the interview. Guess I wasn't alone. Krauthammer sums up:

Presidential doctrines are inherently malleable and difficult to define. The only fixed "doctrines" in American history are the Monroe and the Truman doctrines which come out of single presidential statements during administrations where there were few other contradictory or conflicting foreign policy crosscurrents.

Such is not the case with the Bush doctrine.

Yes, Sarah Palin didn't know what it is. But neither does Charlie Gibson. And at least she didn't pretend to know -- while he looked down his nose and over his glasses with weary disdain, sighing and "sounding like an impatient teacher," as the Times noted. In doing so, he captured perfectly the establishment snobbery and intellectual condescension that has characterized the chattering classes' reaction to the mother of five who presumes to play on their stage.

The question on Pakistan was irritating to me as well as the one on Israel's right to protect itself against Iran. (Wasn't that the one Obama said he would not answer because he did not deal in hypothetical questions?)

I kept thinking to myself, I sure wish these same questions would be presented to all the Presidential and VP candidates...but then that would only be in a perfect world.

 

Found this: Gibson didn't pound John Edwards in 2004; Asked him only if GOP attacks made him mad

Please, comment content should relate to the subject of the post. Although I try to respond to many, do not interpret my lack of a response as agreement.

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Comments

kathryn   

It was a hard question, and he might have referred to it as the Bush Preemptive Doctrine or something like that, for the sake of clarity.  However, a reasonable person with passing familiarity with the Monroe Doctrine might have assumed it was a geopolitical stance rather than a cosmological perspective.  Governor Palin seemed to be going in the direction of doctrine=dogma=worldview.  He looked petty, she looked light-weight.  Maybe not a good moment for either of them.

September 13, 2008 8:52 PM

mikeyd   

Certainly she should have known what the Bush Doctrine is, or what the main tenant of it states. She can almost see Russia from her house and talks really tough about taking an aggressive stance, which is directly in line with the Doctrine. I would have thought she would have stood up and sang the Battle Hymn of the Republic(an) at the mention of it, rather than looking dumbfounded and completely crushed...

I  think this is how the VP debates will go and afterwards all behind Palin will complain that the questions are too tough and everyone is out to get her, while those behind Biden will just feel like he showed his thorough intelligence on the issues.

McCain's group is constantly complaining about hard questions (though this was an easy one) and the media for actually doing its job, and they are trying to steer the election away from issues by making up obvious lies for false headlines. Obama was very clearly not talking about Palin when he used the 'lipstick on a pig' line (the same one McCain used a few months ago referring to Hillary Clinton's health care plan, not one democrat complained he was calling Clinton a pig then), and yet they ask for an apology as if they really think he was referring to her. Either way, wasn't she was the one that called herself a pit bull in lipstick? The Right side should be happy, the left could easily go down a very low road but they have tried very hard to keep it on the issues.  Kyle, I know you don't have time to do the research on certain things, but have you checked out McCain's personal past? I won't go into them and bring it down there, but you might go back to the bad feelings you had about him a few months ago...

Kyle's reply: Mikeyd, we may be kindred spirits when it comes to gardening, but we certainly aren't on the same page, or even in the same library when it comes to politics. 

As I said before, the more I learn about Obama, the more I like McCain.

  

September 15, 2008 9:49 AM

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September 15, 2008 8:18 PM

mikeyd   

Hi Kyle,

I understand that a strongly Republican and very conservative person would not be in favor of Obama's programs the way others might. But like i mentioned, maybe put McCain/Palin under the same eye of scrutiny. McCain hasn't exactly been a great family man, (in case you don't have time to explore some things, McCain has admitted to adultery and 'womanizing' while married, dumped his first wife, apparently because she was a model previous to the war, and he came back and couldn't be with her due to her near death accident which deformed her looks, then ran around with Ms. Rodeo while married and married Cindy a few months after divorcing his first wife), while Obama's (and Joe Biden's) family values and histories are impeccable. Due to some of these issues, there should be some pause by those claiming McCain is the strong family value candidate (it is mostly himself claiming it). The more I learn about McCain, the more deplorable I consider him.  At least he finally, after repeatedly defending his ads saying they did not contain lies, admitted that there were some falsehoods after Karl Rove outed him for the deceptions and multiple non-partison fact checking groups began getting press.

Kyle's reply: Mikeyd, this may shock you, but I was familiar with his adultery. In fact, I heard about it from him in an interview early in the campaign. (I do think some of his behavior might have been a result of his finally being free after years of imprisonment and torture. Sometimes people who come through a horrific accident or serious medical condition tend to act a little wild after the crisis has passed. They then settle down and get back on track.)

I do find your request to "put McCain/Palin under the same eye of scrutiny" pretty laughable, since I don't think any VP has been so thoroughly investigated and obsessed about as she has been, and McCain has certainly been a public figure for a long time.

McCain's indiscretion is not something I approve of. Neither was Ronald Reagan's divorce and remarriage. But their political ideology of smaller government, pro-life, pro-traditional marriage, strong national defense, etc. makes them the best choice for me. I hardly am going to vote for someone who is a good family man, who just happens to approve of abortion up until and including after birth!

Did you let Bill Clinton's many adulterous flings stop you from supporting him and voting for George Bush or Bob Dole (solid family men)?

 

September 16, 2008 1:29 PM

mikeyd   

Hi,

I voted for Clinton because he was far the best choice at the time and would do it again. I, and Clinton himself, have not and did not do what McCain has done, which is present himself as being the best Family Value choice. I don't vote based mostly on those issues, but many people do and it would be good for them to know of McCains past, which has not been brought up, though if Obama has 'family indiscretions' in his past it surely would have been pressed. Palin is probably Not the most thoroughly investigated VP, it is just that no one knew or cared much about her until the day she was nominated for VP and she has little national record, so all that we know of her is based on what has been brought up very recently. I was talking about you putting Palin under the same eye of scrutiny personally, not the entire nation or media. You still missed on that Bridge to Nowhere issue...  Obviously we all know about Biden's life, and many of us knew of his life years ago since he has been a nationally public figure for quite some time. His is both a tragic, but also wonderful story.  It has all been there already for years or decades, whereas his counterpart his been in the nations eye for only a couple of weeks, and McCain only met her once before his decision was made on the candidate, and there are a great deal of negative issues regarding his choice. Thankfully they have been discussed and the nation has the information and can make a more informed decision. Thankfully also Palin's problems have been put mostly to rest until she is made to answer for the inconsistencies in her persona and the reality in the debates, and now we can get on with the debates by the actual candidates. Hopefully those that don't choose based on one issue will watch the debates and investigate and make an informed decision.

September 17, 2008 1:54 PM

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